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Kenotic Love And True Personhood: A Recorded Conversation

Audio recording with Ilia Delio and Cynthia Bourgeault

True love is fecundity, it’s generation, it’s outward moving — and at the same time it’s receptivity — we make space for the other, and allow that other to enter our world.

~ Ilia Delio

You don’t create oneness by eliminating diversity. You create oneness by increasing it within a flexible unity.

~ Cynthia Bourgeault

Ilia Delio and Cynthia Bourgeault enter into an engaging and lively conversation illuminating points brought forward in the vision and writings of Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, and sharing some of their own related life experiences that support those views. Topics of their dialogue include the transformational power of kenotic and sacrificial love, the centrality of ‘personhood’ in our relationship to God, and the co-creative impact of human choices and action on the unfolding future toward Omega. The dialogue starts with Cynthia asking Ilia to elaborate on Teilhard’s premise of love as a universal force of attraction.

LISTEN HERE (58 minutes):

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This is an edited audio version of a recording made by Robbin Whittington of wisdomwayofknowing.org, captured at an evening session of a Teilhard-focused Wisdom School, January 8, 2017 in Tucson Arizona.

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